Subversive project proposal on elcipse.org

ivinnykov
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Subversive project proposal on elcipse.org

Postby ivinnykov » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:38 pm

We're very pleased to announce the publication of the Subversive project proposal on eclipse.org at http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/subversive/.

This is the first step toward making Subversive part of the Eclipse standard distribution. The next step, according to the Eclipse Development Process, is public discussion and collaboration which aims to enhance, refine, and clarify the proposal. And that's where YOU come in.

We cordially invite everyone in the Subversive community to get involved with the project newsgroup at news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.subversive (more below). This is crucial if we want to reach the eventual goal of inclusion of Subversive in the Eclipse IDE. Synergy of the Subversive team and the Community will lead the way towards defining the expectations of the potential user community, adjusting the project's goals accordingly, and eventually accomplishing those goals.

How to participate in the discussion

1. Register for newsgroup access at http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/register.php.
You'll receive login credentials by e-mail shortly after registering.

2. Set up your favorite NNTP newsreader to point to news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.subversive
News server: news.eclipse.org
Port: 119, or 80 for firewalled users
SSL: no
UserID and Password from your subscription e-mail

If you need a refresher on how to set up a NNTP client, visit this page: http://www.polarion.org/index.php?page=proposal&project=subversive

3. Alternatively, use the newsgroup web interface at: http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.technology.subversive

On behalf of the entire team, allow me express our appreciation of your support for Subversive. We look forward to seeing you on the newsgroup as we move ahead with this exciting project.
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Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
Polarion Team

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Postby batyi » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:50 am

What about Subclipse (http://subclipse.tigris.org/)? Do you have any plans to collaborate with them?
By including Subversive into standard distribution you'll effectively kill them which would not be considered a decent move.
Do they have similar plans?

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Postby ivinnykov » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:34 am

Hello batyi,

Publishing of the Subversive proposal on the eclipse.org sholdn't be a novelty either to Subversive and Subclipse community. Since the appearing on public in March 2006 we declared that joining to eclipse.org is our primary goal, which should consolidate community efforts and give a new value for all Eclipse users. We aked Subclipse team to join forces to reach this goal, but at that moment they didn't shared these plans. As we know, Subclipse had ideas of joining to eclipse.org, but because of different reasons they selected another way. From the other side Subclipse team let us know that they are look forward for publishing our proposal on the eclipse.org.

After publishing of the Subversive proposal, a Subclipse team changed plans and want to publish their own proposal. Currently it is in draft state and you can see it there: http://subclipse.tigris.org/proposal/index.html. I think that it is a good sign to all of us. It means that they changed project vision and now have same goals as we have, so it gives a space for teams cooperation. At the end situation around including of SVN support to Eclipse start moving forward first time for last three years during which Subclipse project exists. We pushed situation forward and plan to make it in future in order to give ability Eclipse users work with SVN client from starndard Eclipse distribution. This goal should union Subclipse and Subversive users.

We don't know what will happen with two concurrent proposals on the eclipse.org. I think that the most profitable way is finding reasonable compromises in order to join forces. Unfortunately currently we have no proposals from Subclipse team. In this case we should wait until publishing of their proposal in order have legal acknowledgement of their aims. As soon as their proposal will be published I think that open dialog of both teams will be started.
Best regards,

Igor Vinnykov

Polarion Team

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Subversive accepted as eclipse.org Technology Project

Postby ivinnykov » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:59 pm

The month of March seems to be epoch-making for Subversive. The project was first introduced to public on March 4, 2006. A year later, the project was approved by the Eclipse Foundation to be transferred to eclipse.org as a Technology Project, initiating the incubation phase of Subversive.

Incubating as an Eclipse Technology Project is a required step for gathering wide community acceptance and reaching a sufficient maturity level to qualify Subversive to become part of the core Eclipse platform. Please visit the Subversive project page at the eclipse.org.

As soon as we release Subversive 1.1.0 (targeted at Eclipse 3.2/Callisto) and 1.0.4 (targeted at Eclipse 3.0 or later), we will start project transfer to eclipse.org. The first step will be to move the source code. The Eclipse Foundation has started creating the SVN infrastructure, so the project will be located in the SVN repository. Due to EPL license restrictions not all source code will be migrated - we will leave here the optional integration with SVNKit.

Regarding migration of the rest of the project resources - mailing lists, forum, etc. - there is no final solution yet, but we will try to keep things simple for our community. Please keep an eye on our announcements!
Best regards,

Igor Vinnykov

Polarion Team


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